New York Times Bestselling Author Kimberla Lawson Roby Releases Last Book in Rev. Curtis Black Series, Reveals How Rev. Black Almost Competed With Fox’s ‘Empire,’ What’s Next in Her Career & More

My Interview With Audio!

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New York Times Bestselling Author Kimberla Lawson Roby, the author of 27 books, has reached a milestone in her storied writing career. From Kimberla’s newsletter:

Well, the time has finally come…to bring my Reverend Curtis Black Series to an end. When I first wrote CASTING THE FIRST STONE, which was released in January 2000, I never planned on writing a sequel or creating a series—until my then literary agent, Elaine Koster, told me that because I had such loyal and dedicated readers who were asking me to write a sequel, I had an obligation to give them what they were asking for. Today, I am truly thankful for her advice, as writing the Reverend Curtis Black Series has certainly given me so much joy, and even more, it allowed me to connect with all of you in ways I will forever be grateful for. As readers, you became my family and friends, and it is because of your kindness and encouragement over the years that I was inspired to continue writing the series, one book after another.

Now, though, the end is here, and the 15th and final title in the series, BETTER LATE THAN NEVER, will be released on Tuesday, July 31, 2018! This, of course, is proving to be a bittersweet time for me, but I am so happy and excited to have brought Reverend Curtis Black full circle! If you’ve read the first fourteen books in the series, then you know that once upon a time, Curtis was completely consumed with money, power and women, but today, he is a true man of God, a faithful husband and a great father. Reverend Curtis Black is proof that any of us can change for the better if we choose to, regardless of childhood trauma and other struggles we may experience as adults.

In BETTER LATE THAN EVER, Curtis reunites with his terminally-ill sister who he has been estranged from for decades, and if that isn’t enough, he is now forced to relive vivid scenes from his horrifying, abusive childhood.  At the same time, his wife Charlotte, decides that she can no longer pretend that she loves being first lady of their church…when in truth, she literally despises it. And then, their youngest daughter, twelve-year-old Curtina, is causing more problems for Curtis and Charlotte than they ever thought possible.

As this is the end of a notable series, I thought I would interview Kimberla about the evolution of Rev. Curtis Black in this last offering, the series coming to an end, what’s next in her life and overall tips for authors and readers. Please see our interview below. And if you would prefer to listen to the interview, that option is below the written interview. Enjoy and learn!

1. Why are you ending the Rev. Curtis Black series now?

For a number of years, I have been leading up to this point. I never actually knew when it was going to happen but when I wrote the last couple of books, books 13 and 14, that’s when I realized that I finally, finally had Curtis in a place that I was trying to get him to. I wanted to bring him full circle. I wanted to show that any of us, anyone at all, can change for the better if they choose to. So Curtis went from being this pastor who was consumed with money and power and women and now today, he is a genuine man. He is a true man of God. He’s a great husband. And he’s a great father. I just wanted to be able to end it on that kind of a note.

2. And you mentioned in the introduction that this would be a different type of book. And it has been a different type of book. It’s a quieter book, but it goes deeper than some of the other books. Why did you do that this time around?

I wanted to, of course, go back and show Curtis’ what childhood was like. While he has mentioned it throughout the years, like in the third book, when his mom passes away, that is when he finally sees his sister again. And of course, he hasn’t even seen his mom until he sees her in her casket. But I wanted to show the effects of his childhood, how that really turned him into the person he once was. It certainly does not justify his terrible actions, all of the sins he committed. It does not justify his hurting the number of people that he hurt in his earlier years. But it certainly shows that whatever happens in our childhood will affect us, in one way or another, for the rest of our lives.

3. And is that what you hope readers will get from this final installment?

I do. I hope they will get that, and I hope that in reading about his estrangement with his sister, now seeing her again in a terminally ill state,  I’m hoping that readers will see that forgiveness means everything. That no matter what those issues have been or those problems with family members or close friends, moving on and forgiving others is basically the key to life.

4. As the daughter of a pastor and having seen a First Lady up close, I was really intrigued by Charlotte’s story line about not wanting to be the typical First Lady. Where did that idea come from to explore that?

Throughout these years, when I first started writing the Rev. Curtis Black series and went out on that first release tour, I really, I guess, was afraid of what people were going to say, the kind of backlash I was going to receive. What happened instead was that I heard from First Ladies coming up to me at events and whispering sometimes or e-mailing me privately saying, ‘Thank you for writing my story. Thank you for saying what I’m not able to say because so many of our parishioners will see us on Sunday mornings, maybe we have that smile on our face, maybe we’re dressed in a nice suit, but they really have no idea what we’re feeling and what we’re dealing with the other six days of the week.’

So in talking to pastors’ wives and First Ladies throughout the country over these last 18 years since that first title in the series was released, I realized the private pain that so many of them were dealing with and how they weren’t even focused on their own purpose necessarily in life because they were focused on their husbands’ purpose and that they were dealing with people in their churches who sometimes wouldn’t smile back at them or didn’t even like them for one reason or another yet they were placed in a position where they had to remain silent about it.

5. Another plot point I was shocked by but it was an interesting story to read about was fast mama Curtina. Did that come from something you had heard about? Where did that come from?

That did and not necessarily from pastors and their wives and their children. But I’m seeing it across the board with family members and friends and just acquaintances sharing exactly what is going on with their 12-year-old daughters. And sometimes unfortunately, I’ve heard about it from as young as 10 and 11 year olds. So these are girls who are thinking about things and doing things that I never even considered when I was that age. So it really is a trying time for many of our parents of today.

6. Now, I see you’ve re-released the very first book in the series ‘Casting the First Stone,’ and I wanted to know what made you want to do that now and what has been the response from releasing it?

It’s been great. It’s been a better response than I imagined. Early on, when I published my first three books, those were the print edition and audio edition, and people were not thinking about the electronic edition then. This was before the e-book trend. I’ve had the rights to ‘Casting the First Stone’ and two of my other stand alone titles, but I never really pushed the idea of releasing those on my own, but when I knew that I was finally bringing the series to an end, I thought how great would it be to go ahead and release this first book.

Self-publishing is something I haven’t done in a long time, but also because, when I started to announce that the 15th and final book of the series was coming out this year, I had so many readers saying they wanted to start from book one and read that first 14 and re-familiarize themselves with the story line to prepare for the 15th. And then, of course, I started to hear from readers who basically only read e-books.

7. I read through your acknowledgements and you thanked everybody and their grandmamma like they say. So I was just thinking to myself, I know this is the end of this particular series, but since you thanked so many people, I wondered was there a hidden message in all of that.

Well, I think that it is the end of an era because for so many years, I’ve been writing and for a number of years, I’ve been writing two books a year so I have my standalone titles and I’ve always  had my readers who have read those books and told me that they enjoyed them and that they really helped them in one way or another. But certainly, over the years, when you hear Kimberla Lawson Roby, most people do tend to think about Rev. Curtis Black.

And so I just wanted to thank my readers and family members and friends and everyone, people like you in the industry who played such a major part in keeping the information about the books out there, hearing those comments from readers,  how they saw the characters as real life people so I just thought I couldn’t have done this certainly without God and His grace and the favor He saw fit to have on my life, but certainly because of so many people. So no, I’m not ending my writing career but it is the end of an era with my Rev. Curtis Black series. And now this finally allows me to move forward with other projects I’ve been wanting to work on that really don’t have a lot to do with writing.

Can you tell me a little bit more about that?

Well, I’m certainly moving a lot more into my speaking arena if you will. I’ve always known that God has always had a purpose for my life when it comes to speaking to women so I’m now freed up a little bit more to take on those speaking engagements. I don’t have to pass on them the way that I was doing the last few years.

8. This is an off-the-top-of-my-head question. You’ve written 27 books. What are the top three changes that you’ve noticed in your writing and career as you’ve written these 27 books?

I think from a writing standpoint, my craft has improved over the years and that’s just with writing more books and reading more books and certainly hearing from my readers and really, really listening to them in terms of what they enjoyed and what they were looking for and what was helping them. The second thing is e-books. It’s way different now with my career from when I started out back in the mid to late 90s. For a while, e-books were maybe five or 10 percent of sales when the books would come out with the hardcover. Then I saw it at 20 to 25 percent. Then eventually it was maybe 30 percent. Then, eventually, it was 50 percent. And sometimes even more. We saw it exceed that first month of sales in terms of comparing to the print edition so that’s one thing. And the other thing is social media.

Social media changed everything. It changed the entire landscape for my career because it allowed me to really interact with readers across the board both here in the U.S. and abroad in a way that I would have never been able to had social media not come about.

9. Now to what do you attribute your longevity in this industry to? I know you’re going to say God and of course, that is great. But in addition to God, are there any other things you have done as a writer that you feel has helped you to get you where you are, since you are going to be speaking to women and maybe authors. Are there any things that you can pinpoint?

There are two things or maybe three. Obviously, I am going to say God because we know that nothing is possible without God.

But the second thing is I worked really, really hard to build my relationships with readers one reader at a time, one book club at a time, one group at a time. I started to see them like my family members and friends. That really made a difference and that was always extremely important to me. I never would have continued writing had I not heard from them or received the amount of encouragement and love and support that I received from my readers over the years. I’m sure that most writers believe that they have the best readers in the world and I certainly have always said that and always felt like that.

Also, I feel that you have to stay true to yourself regardless of what becomes popular, what becomes the thing to do. Many writers think well let me sort of jump on this bandwagon. This is where I’m going to become the most successful. And if I do this, this will allow me to sell more books. Even when I knew there were things that I could have done or said to make that happen. For example, I wasn’t willing to cross any lines that would cross or affect or go against my Christian values, my family values and my moral values.

10. All of these books that you have, all of this information, that people in television can go to, have you ever thought about making a movie or a series? There is ‘Greenleaf’ out there. Any thought about that?

I have and I have actually been approached and been in negotiations with a major movie studio. That was in 2013 and 2014 and both times, by the time I received the contracts, I passed both times.

In 2015, I received an offer and went through the contract negotiations with a major network, not cable, but a major network. They were actually looking for something to compete with Fox’s ‘Empire’ and interestingly enough, of course Rev. Curtis Black, even though he is a pastor, he could certainly do that. I ended up passing, and I passed because I needed to know that I would have some input if I saw something in the script each week that would cross the line. And I just didn’t want to see something happen that readers would be disappointed with, that it would veer way too far off from what they had read in the actual books.

So I have interest and once I have a producer who understands that and is willing to bring me on as an executive producer, hopefully that will happen. We’ll see.

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Any thoughts?

Seven Scriptures to Show the Emanuel AME Church Shooting Victims’ Families Were Right to Forgive Murderer Dylan Roof

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Much has been said about the unmerited forgiveness that some of the family members of the victims’ of the Emanuel AME Church shooting offered to Dylan Roof to his face at his first court appearance in South Carolina about a week ago.  Some praised the families’ stance while others have criticized their stance such as Stacey Patton who wrote The Washington Post article “Black America Should Stop Forgiving White Racists.” Most recently, President Obama added his thoughts on their forgiveness, praising the families’ stance in his eulogy of the slain Pastor Clementa Pinckney on Friday…

He didn’t know he was being used by God.  Blinded by hatred, the alleged killer could not see the grace surrounding Reverend Pinckney and that Bible study group — the light of love that shone as they opened the church doors and invited a stranger to join in their prayer circle.  The alleged killer could have never anticipated the way the families of the fallen would respond when they saw him in court — in the midst of unspeakable grief, with words of forgiveness.  He couldn’t imagine that.

The alleged killer could not imagine how the city of Charleston, under the good and wise leadership of Mayor Riley  how the state of South Carolina, how the United States of America would respond — not merely with revulsion at his evil act, but with big-hearted generosity and, more importantly, with a thoughtful introspection and self-examination that we so rarely see in public life.

I agree with President Obama. Forgiveness is a powerful stance, and below are seven Scriptures that back up what I believe…

1. First of all, forgiveness, when graciously extended to the offender, is healing to the person who offers it…I’ve heard that resentment is like drinking poison expecting the other person to die…The same is true of unforgiveness…To not forgive is setting yourself to be forever tied to poisonous negativity…Forgiveness is the beginning of healing as is said in James 5:16 “Therefore, confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person has great power as it is working.”

2. Also, when you choose to forgive, you are opening yourself up to God’s blessings. But when you choose to not forgive, you are blocking your blessings…Read Mark 11: 24-25For this reason I am telling you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe (trust and be confident) that it is granted to you, and you will [get it]. And whenever you stand praying, if you have anything against anyone, forgive him and let it drop (leave it, let it go), in order that your Father Who is in heaven may also forgive you your [own] failings and shortcomings and let them drop.”

3. In her article, Patton said, “Historically, black churches have nurtured the politics of forgiveness so that black people can anticipate divine justice and liberation in the next life. This sentiment shaped non-violent protest during the civil rights movement. A belief that displays of morality rooted in forgiveness would force white America to leave behind its racist assumptions. But Christian or non-Christian, black people are not allowed to express unbridled grief or rage, even under the most horrific circumstances.” I get where she is coming from, but I disagree. Choosing to forgive is not repressing grief nor rage. As we all know, emotions change from day to day. But when we make the choice to forgive even if our emotions contradict that decision from time to time, God rather than the evil one will see us through through emotions as is noted in 2 Corinthians 2: 10-11. If you forgive anyone anything, I too forgive that one; and what I have forgiven, if I have forgiven anything, has been for your sakes in the presence [and with the approval] of Christ (the Messiah). To keep Satan from getting the advantage over us; for we are not ignorant of his wiles and intentions.”

4. Patton mentioned non-violence and how it shaped the Civil Rights Movement…I believe that without the tool of non-violence, the world over would haven’t been drawn to support Dr. King and others who, in the face of unspeakable violence, chose to not respond in kind…The same is true of forgiveness…As President Obama noted in his eulogy of Pastor Pinckney, the families’ forgiveness has forced America to take a fresh look at racism and all of the symbols that support it….This is the sentiment of Romans 12: 17.Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all.”

5. Also, choosing to forgive someone does not mean the person will not get what is coming to the person…But it is not our responsibility to get revenge…He or she will get what is coming to him or her…God will see to it as is noted in Romans 12:19 “Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: ‘It is mine to avenge; I will repay,’ says the Lord.

6. And please know that forgiveness does not mean that we don’t seek justice. Read Isaiah 1:17 “Learn to do good; seek justice, correct oppression; bring justice to the fatherless, plead the widow’s cause. “

7. And lastly, forgiveness does not give white racists a pass…The Confederate flag is a symbol of hatred not heritage…As President Obama said in his eulogy, “Removing the flag from this state’s capitol would not be an act of political correctness; it would not be an insult to the valor of Confederate soldiers.  It would simply be an acknowledgment that the cause for which they fought — the cause of slavery — was wrong  — the imposition of Jim Crow after the Civil War, the resistance to civil rights for all people was wrong.  It would be one step in an honest accounting of America’s history; a modest but meaningful balm for so many unhealed wounds.  It would be an expression of the amazing changes that have transformed this state and this country for the better, because of the work of so many people of goodwill, people of all races striving to form a more perfect union.” Shout out to Bree Newsome!  As is stated in the Bible in Romans 10:12 “For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on Him. “

In response to the Emanuel AME Church shooting, The Balm In Gilead has added Church Emergency Preparedness to its roster of plenaries and workshops for faith leaders, health directors, doctors, nurses and all those involved in congregational-based Health Ministries at Healthy Churches 2020 Conference, (www.healthychurhces2020.org) November 4-6, 2015 located at the Hilton Charlotte University Place in Charlotte, NC.  

Any thoughts?

Your Cheatin’ Heart Will Tell On You…

Hello World,

If I hadn’t heard this was a true story, I would have thought that some very imaginative and skillful Christian novelist wove this story early one morning after watching episode  after episode of “Fatal Vows” on the Investigation Discovery (ID) Channel, my new favorite channel!

Have you read the story of “Bishop Dies of Apparent Heart Attack After Wife Allegedly Pushed Him to Confess Infidelity to Church?” on The Christian Post.

You must read this nearly unbelievable story but basically what happened is that Bishop Bobby Davis of of Miracle Faith World Outreach Church in Bridgeport, Connecticut died a week ago today after he told his wife Christine to whom he had been married for 50 years that he had been unfaithful some time ago. He told her before the church service, and she pushed him to confess to the congregation in a special meeting after the church service. Apparently, his children were also unaware of their father’s past transgression and mayhem ensued. According to The Christian Post, “It got physical. One of the sons attacked him. I was told one of the daughters poured water on him. It was like something out of, not even like the Old Testament, but a bad reality TV show,” said the source. “My heart is so devastated because it could have been handled in a private manner.”

Reportedly, Bishop Davis, who was apparently and ironically, a certified marriage and family therapist, had a heart attack at his church and was later pronounced dead at Bridgeport Hospital.

As a newly married woman and a Christian, this story is disturbing. I have so many questions.

  • What caused this man of God and marriage and family therapist to cheat on his wife?
  • What prompted the bishop to tell his wife of this infidelity after such a long time had passed? (Apparently, the person whom he cheated with had passed away.)
  • In light of what happened, are his wife and childen regretful of how their actions may have contributed to the bishop’s death?
  • Was the way he died evidence of God’s judgment?
  • Was the bishop’s ministry negated because of one sin?
  • Did the bishop go to Heaven?
  • What can we learn from this story?

Here are my answers to the questions I posed:

  • I don’t know the exact circumstances that led to the bishop’s cheating and perhaps no one will never know now that he is dead. However, he was not the first man of God that succumbed to his temptation. Read the story of David, a “man after God’s own heart,” who committed adultery, in 2 Samuel 11.
  • When we sin and do not repent, we create a barrier between ourselves and God.  We are told that in Isaiah 59:2. We are also told in James 5:16 that we are supposed to confess our sins to each other to be healed.
  • I don’t blame the reaction of the bishop’s family to his infidelity because I am sure they are deeply hurt by what he did, and from what I read, this is the first time they heard about his infidelity. But hopefully they can move past all of the anger and bitterness they feel and forgive him. We are told in Ephesians 4:31-32 to let go of anger and bitterness and forgive a person if that person has asked to forgiven as Jesus Christ has forgiven us.
  • With the dramatic way the bishop died, it’s hard not to wander if the way he died was evidence of God’s judgment. It does state in the Bible that if we continue in sin and take communion Sunday after Sunday knowing that we have not confessed our sins, we can invite God’s judgment. Read 1 Corinthians 11:29-31.
  • So was the bishop’s entire ministry negated because of one sin? I don’t think so. In Romans 3:23, we are told that all of us have sinned. As Christians, we should be less susceptible to sin as we grow in our faith, but we will never be completely sinless until we are in Heaven with God.
  • So is the bishop with God in Heaven? I think so! If Jesus, while dying on a cross,  promised a thief dying next to him also on a cross, that they would be together in Paradise, then I believe Heaven is where the bishop is this morning! Read the story about this blessed thief in Luke 23:32-43!
  • What can we learn from this story? I guess that depends on where you are in your life. For me, I am learning that marriage is work. Not that I’m not happy, but to honor the vows that I took on Aug. 10 last year is work…I’m praying that God will help me to live up to what I vowed to do…

Any thoughts?